[Novalug] [ncaug] Vast Chinese "Ghostnet" spying operation discovered

John Franklin franklin@elfie.org
Sun Apr 5 11:10:54 EDT 2009


ISTR the mandate you're speaking of was that all devices purchased  
after a certain date about three years ago had to be IPv6 *capable*.   
There was no mandate inside or outside the government (so far as I  
know) to implement an IPv6 network, but they wanted ti to be possible  
and wanted vendors to start seriously figuring out IPv6 issues.

Cookies to donuts, most of the devices that didn't already have IPv6  
support dropped in the KAME IPv6 stack, some with better results than  
others.

jf

On Apr 5, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Anthony Soucek wrote:

> I heard that there was a federal mandate, or at least suggestion to  
> move to IPv6, and I think it has come and gone.  The Feds use IPv6  
> internally, but they have to nat to v4 to communicate with the  
> ISPs.  working for a local government, I know we sure cant afford to  
> replace our entire network infrastructure to go to IPv6.  There  
> would have to be a huge lump of stimulus for that to happen, and I  
> doubt it will.  Also, what would stop hackers from developing an  
> IPv6 ghostnet?  No, I think it's just a classic arms race, but what  
> the world needs is a monolithic platform (like windows) that is open  
> source.  It needs to be monolithic so that has all the features and  
> a huge patch and security crew, and open source so everyone can  
> contribute to the security review and afford it.  But that probably  
> wont happen in this wicked world.  Linux is probably the best bet.
>
> which begs the question, what are you runing for anti-spyware in  
> linux if you think:
> "then that also means that Linux is probably in the mix, although  
> the article is OS agnostic, given the Chinese rate of adoption of  
> Linux  in lieu of {mostly pirated) instances of Microsoft OS's."?
>
> 2009/4/2 John B. Holmblad <jholmblad@aol.com>
> All,
>
> fyi. As a followup to my earlier message on this thread, Today's  
> WAMU Dianne Rehm segment has a good panel discussion on US  
> Cybersecurity. Here is the url to the www page for the radio show:
>
>     http://wamu.org/programs/dr/09/04/02.php#24621
>
> I assume that a podcast of it will become available. Interestingly  
> the question of migrating to IPV6 was not discussed/proposed as a  
> mitigant for the problems we all face today. It occurs to me that  
> our US Gov could give IPV6 a needed shot in the arm by requiring  
> that SmartGrid projects that receive US funding and which will in  
> any depend upon Internet based communications must utilize IPV6 and  
> not IPV4. IPv6 is by no means a panacea but it is a step in the  
> right direction for national cybersecurity.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> John Holmblad
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> Bonnie Dalzell wrote:
>> heard about this Ghostnet?
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/technology/29spy.html?_r=1
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