[Novalug] Kubuntu and KDE-freakin-4

Joseph Brinkley brinkley.joseph@gmail.com
Sat Dec 6 14:12:11 EST 2008


How did you get the Nvida when i got my t60p its was ATI only....
Same stats less HDD 160 and more CPU 2.6

<< compiz does not run for me unless i tweak it !

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Ken Kauffman <kkauffman@headfog.com> wrote:
> I forgot to mention, my experience with KDE4.C (c=crap) is on:
>
> - 15.4" Lenovo T61P
> - Core2Duo 2.2Ghz
> - NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M (256MB)
> - WiFi (Intel 4965AGN 802.11a/b/g/n), Bluetooth 2.0 w/ EDR
> - Hitachi 200Gb / 7200 RPM
> - 4Gb RAM
>
> I was surprised to find that effects were slow given I was using the
> Nvidia proprietary driver which was leveraging the independent GPU and
> memory.
>
> Is anyone running 802.11n on (K)Ubuntu?  If so, did you end up needing
> to use ndiswrapper to get it working?  Currently I am using wireless
> G.
>
> Ken
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 22:01, Michael Henry <lug-user@drmikehenry.com> wrote:
>> I found Ubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4 to be somewhat of a disaster.  The keyboard
>> shortcuts in KDE 4 are broken and won't be fixed until it becomes high
>> enough priority for some KDE developer.  I couldn't find a way to make
>> things feel responsive like they do in KDE 3.5.  Switching windows with
>> alt-tab was s-l-o-w.  I found I had to pause between bringing up the window
>> menu (Alt-F3 by default) and pressing 'n' to minimize a window, which was
>> very painful.  I didn't like that the new Konsole now remembers the previous
>> window size instead of using a configured size.  I like to keep 80x24 as a
>> default and resize on a case-by-case basis, but I couldn't figure out how to
>> make that happen.  I also couldn't make dual-head work properly.  I'm
>> running on a Thinkpad T61 with an Intel GM965 chipset.  It works well in
>> Ubuntu 8.4 with KDE 3.5.10.  I had a general feeling of instability with KDE
>> 4.  It crashed on me a few times.  There are also some missing packages in
>> KDE 4 that haven't been ported yet; the one I remember is kdiff3, but I
>> think there were a few others.
>>
>> Like Ken, after a few days of pain, I reverted to Ubuntu 8.4 LTS.  I'm not
>> sure if and when KDE 4 will stabilize, regain its speed, and become viable
>> for me again.  I really don't prefer GNOME.  I tried GNOME with Ubuntu for a
>> few months, but I couldn't get used to a few things.  GNOME keyboard
>> shortcuts are fairly inflexible, and the developers are philosophically
>> opposed to letting the user customize certain things.  For example, I wanted
>> to configure Alt-right-click-drag to resize windows because that's the KDE
>> default to which I've become accustomed.  The GNOME developers are adamant
>> that right-click must never be anything but a context menu, so it's
>> impossible to remap right-click (even with the Alt modifier).  People have
>> submitted bug reports about this lack of configurability, but they've been
>> rejected.  I don't know where KDE is heading.  It seems to me that KDE is
>> adopting some aspects of GNOME, and abdicating some of the window manager
>> functionality to Compiz (though that's probably an optional aspect).  Compiz
>> seems to be following more of a GNOME model for keyboard shortcuts and
>> configurability.  I'm hoping to try it again for Ubuntu 9.4 when it comes,
>> but I'll certainly be doing the installation to a test hard drive before
>> committing myself.
>>
>> I suspect that staying all-GNOME on Ubuntu will give you a much better
>> experience (assuming you like GNOME itself well enough).  KDE is not as well
>> supported on Ubuntu as GNOME is, which is why I wanted to try GNOME for a
>> while.  But you may still want to try an installation to a separate
>> partition or hard drive if you can, or do a full backup before upgrading so
>> you can revert if you are unhappy with the new installation.
>>
>> Michael Henry
>>
>>
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