[Novalug] [steve.langasek@ubuntu.com: Ubuntu JeOS 7.10 released]
Megan Larko
larkoc@iges.org
Fri Nov 16 18:50:05 EST 2007
DonJr wrote:
> Even more to the point:
> What is "Just Enough Operating System"?
I'm with Don on this one. Most of my systems do not have sound or
wireless. The sound thing gets to me because some of the apps (in both
KDE and in GNOME) like to make sounds for actions. How many of you
folks out there have had the CD or DVD application k3b make that loud
music that accompanies either a success or a failure? I agree with the
need for a stripped down OS but personally I would like to see one
without X and the apps GUIs which depend upon it. An init 3 environment
with CLI is, in my opinion, "minimal".
JMHO,
megan
>
> Lets look at ubuntu_minimal: Minimal core of ubuntu
> For version 1.43 as used by Ubuntu 7.04 here is what this object
> DEPENDS on:
>
> adduser Add and remove users and groups
> alsa-base ALSA driver configuration files
> alsa-utils ALSA utilities
> apt Advanced front-end for dpkg
> apt-utils APT utility programs
> aptitude terminal-based apt frontend
> base-files Debian base system miscellaneous files
> base-passwd Debian base system master password and group files
> bash The GNU Bourne Again SHell
> bsdutils Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite
> bzip2 high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilitiesconsole-setup Setup the font and the keyboard on the console
> console-tools Linux console and font utilities
> coreutils The GNU core utilities
> dash The Debian Almquist Shell
> debconf Debian configuration management system
> debianutils Miscellaneous utilities specific to Debian
> dhcp3-client DHCP Client
> diff File comparison utilities
> dpkg package maintenance system for Debian
> e2fsprogs ext2 file system utilities and libraries
> eject ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers under Linux
> ethtool display or change ethernet card settings
> findutils utilities for finding files--find, xargs, and locate
> gettext-base GNU Internationalization utilities for the base systemgnupg GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement
> grep GNU grep, egrep and fgrep
> gzip The GNU compression utility
> hostname utility to set/show the host name or domain name
> ifupdown high level tools to configure network interfaces
> initramfs-tools tools for generating an initramfs
> iproute Professional tools to control the networking in Linux kernels
> iputils-ping Tools to test the reachability of network hosts
> less Pager program similar to more
> libc6-i686 GNU C Library: Shared libraries [i686 optimized]
> libfribidi0 Free Implementation of the Unicode BiDi algorithm
> locales common files for locale support
> login system login tools
> lsb-release Linux Standard Base version reporting utility
> makedev creates device files in /dev
> mawk a pattern scanning and text processing language
> mii-diag A little tool to manipulate network cards
> mktemp Makes unique filenames for temporary files
> module-init-tools tools for managing Linux kernel modules
> mount Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems
> ncurses-base Descriptions of common terminal types
> ncurses-bin Terminal-related programs and man pages
> net-tools The NET-3 networking toolkit
> netbase Basic TCP/IP networking system
> netcat TCP/IP swiss army knife
> ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers
> passwd change and administer password and group data
> pciutils Linux PCI Utilities
> pcmciautils PCMCIA utilities for Linux 2.6
> perl-base The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister
> procps /proc file system utilities
> python An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)
> python-minimal A minimal subset of the Python language (default version)
> sed The GNU sed stream editor
> startup-tasks definitions of essential tasks to run on startup
> sudo Provide limited super user privileges to specific users
> sysklogd System Logging Daemon
> system-services definitions of essential system services
> tar GNU tar
> tasksel Tool for selecting tasks for installation on Debian systems
> tzdata Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data
> ubuntu-keyring GnuPG keys of the Ubuntu archive
> udev rule-based device node and kernel event manager
> upstart event-based init daemon
> upstart-compat-sysv compatibility for System-V-like init
> upstart-logd boot logging daemon
> usbutils USB console utilities
> util-linux Miscellaneous system utilities
> util-linux-locales Locales files for util-linux
> vim-tiny Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor - compact version
> wireless-tools Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions
> wpasupplicant Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
>
> Now most of these make sense EXCEPT for a few glaring exceptions.
> alsa-base, alsa-utils Not ever system has or need SOUND support.
>
> aptitude A nice front end for 'apt|dpkg', but as a mininum level
> system requirement NO way.
>
> dhcp3-client - I can understand a need for it to simplify things,
> but it's possible to do without.
>
> eject Not every thing has a CD-drive attached
> {yes it has other uses}
>
> And NOW for the really GLARING ONES
> wireless-tools - I have a number of systems that don't currently
> wpasupplicant - have any wireless device and most likely never will.
>
>
> NOTE you can not install a Ubuntu based setup without a least installing
> 'ubuntu-minimal'.
>
> And don't even get me started on 'ubuntu-standard' the next level
> object, which has:
> pppoeconfig, - Only a Gateway Host/machine would even possibly need this
> pppconfig - I only have one system with a functioning modem.
> and haven't used the device(modem) in a number of years.
>
> And there are other questionable requirements(depends).
>
> -- DonJr
>
> On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 15:55 -0500, Charles M Howe wrote:
>> Argh!
>>
>> In a nutshell, what is "virtualization"? A virtual appliance?
>>
>> Somebody's gotta bring up the rear.
>>
>> Charlie the Perpetual Newbie
>>
>> On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 09:39 -0500, gregory pryzby wrote:
>>> I thought this might be of interest.
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded message from Steve Langasek
>> <steve.langasek@ubuntu.com> -----
>>> To: ubuntu-announce@lists.ubuntu.com
>>> From: Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@ubuntu.com>
>>> Subject: Ubuntu JeOS 7.10 released
>>>
>>> The Ubuntu team is happy to announce the first release of Ubuntu
>> JeOS,
>>> Ubuntu JeOS 7.10. Pronounced "juice", Ubuntu JeOS (Just Enough
>> Operating
>>> System) is an efficient variant of Ubuntu configured specifically
>> for
>>> virtual appliances.
>>>
>>> ISVs looking to develop virtual appliances will have a compelling
>> platform
>>> in Ubuntu JeOS, an OS optimised for virtualisation that greatly
>> reduces the
>>> complexity and maintenance overhead normally associated with general
>> purpose
>>> operating systems. Ubuntu JeOS Edition has been tuned to take
>> advantage of
>>> key performance technologies of the latest virtualisation products
>> from
>>> VMware. This combination of reduced size and optimized performance
>> ensures
>>> that Ubuntu JeOS Edition delivers a highly efficient use of server
>> resources
>>> in large virtual deployments.
>>>
>>> You can read more about Ubuntu JeOS in the following press release:
>>>
>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-jeos
>>>
>
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