[Novalug] CentOS, Fedora, and rpms

Beartooth karhunhammas@Lserv.com
Mon Dec 31 15:32:26 EST 2007


On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Stephen Chapman wrote:

> not to be an elitist or anything but ... What is CentOS 
> missing?? during install you can pretty much choose 
> everything...  and the things that are there.  about 90% of the 
> dependencies are already there so all you have to do with the 
> source is a make and a make install.... is that the part you 
> are not sure about... compiling packages??

 	I don't risk (or take the time) doing compile, make, or 
any of that highfalutin sophisticated stuff -- I can trash the 
occasional machine easily enough without. I never even take 
tarballs, if I can somehow avoid them.

 	I got the CentOS DVD; installed 5.1; installed EPEL on 
it; ran yum update; ran pirut and went through it group by group; 
ran yum clean all, rpm --rebuilddb, and yum update again.

 	Of the things I use constantly all day, or at least very 
often, I still lacked alpine, brasero, Dillo, epiphany, galeon, 
pan, and seamonkey.

 	So I did a little googling, and soon found myself looking 
mainly at Dag Wieers's site. I took the latest best rpms I could 
find for x86, with preference first for RHEL (5 over 4), and then 
had to take some from Fedora; and several of them were far from 
current.

 	I got most of them, in some form; I don't have Alpine 
yet, only because I haven't gotten around to it yet. (I'm very 
used to getting Pine and Opera, and yum install to meet their 
dependencies.)

 	I still lack brasero, epiphany, galeon, and seamonkey. 
All I could get for seamonkey was a tarball, and I'm in process 
of reading up on how to handle that. Epiphany and Galeon failed 
rpm -ivh -- and you failed to find their dependencies; I suppose 
I'll have to hunt those down, on Dag or elsewhere. (Yes, I did 
find the current morph, and shouldn't call it Dag any more -- 
rpmforge or some such ...)

 	Under the last two or three Fedora releases, brasero and 
k3b have each succeeded at times when the other didn't, both at 
blanking old RW media and at burning new that would actually do 
installs -- both from the same .ISO. Go figure.

 	I use Epiphany and Galeon many times every day, and have 
sites I keep open all the time on each. I also treat Epiphany as 
my expendable browser: i.e., when Dillo (my default) or even 
Opera fails a URL, I go to Epiphany instead of tweaking my 
defenses.

 	Related topic: I have huge sets of bookmarks, especially 
for Opera (where I keep my master stash) from different machines. 
I've been wanting to merge them for the last couple years, 
preferably without sending them out to some external site. This 
may be a good time to tackle that job. Any suggestions?

 	Anybody happen to know sources for Brasero, Epiphany, 
Galeon, and Seamonkey that don't cost an extra day chasing down 
dependencies? (I'm not even asking about kasehakaze!)

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Double Retiree,
Not Quite Clueless Linux Power User
What do they know of country, who only country know?



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