[Novalug] Which linux to install??
Tom Rhodes
trhodes@FreeBSD.org
Sun Nov 19 22:08:53 EST 2006
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:11:27 -0500
James Ewing Cottrell 3rd <JECottrell3@Comcast.NET> wrote:
> Chris Sykes wrote:
>
> > Haven't actually made it out to one of the meetings yet but I keep
> > putting it on my calendar.
> >
> > I just wanted to pipe in about slackware not having a decent package
> > management system. Personally I use slapt-get and swaret to augment
> > the 'packagers' that come with slackware. Makes installing and
> > removing packages and updating to new version releases a snap.
>
> AFAIK, all swaret buys you is library dependencies. While useful, that
> doesn't capture the fact that CVS depends on RCS, which in turn depends
> on DIFF. or that programs that send mail depend on mail-transport-agent,
> which is what sendmail, postfix, exim, or qmail provide.
>
> But where RPM and DPKG (and maybe Portage too, I haven't fully grokked
> it yet) really shine is in capturing the BUILD process. I can't count
> the times that someone has told me to rebuild something complex like
> sendmail, apache, or MySQL, but the configuration options have been
> "lost". A SPEC (or the dpkg equivalent, I can't remember what the name
> is) file captures the entire process.
>
> You know SunOS was a nice system too. But you won't learn anything if
> you don't keep up with modern systems.
Yes, but they gave us the vnode. And BSD gave us usr/bin and
usr/sbin for better separation of utilities.
>
> > Personally I use gentoo on my desktops and slack/gentoo/debian/openbsd
> > on my servers.
>
> BSD is a dead-end too. While 4.3BSD was at one time The Standard, 4.4BSD
> gratuitously changed the man pages, make, and several other stuff.
> Their insistence on creating disk slices inside partitions is annoying too.
I'm really not sure about this. I'm not sure I agree about it
being the standard at one point. It was a nice improvement to
the original UNIX via the "add on collection" but seemed to have
a large split between the users of BSD and original UNIX from Bell
Labs.
>
> Finally, Get With The Program and put ISOs up on the mirrors! Don't make
> me work that hard just to install the system.
???
Is this still an issue? I thought we fixed this two years ago,
are some mirrors not following suit?
>
> > If you are (re)learning your skills for use in the mainstream coporate
> > linux world I would stick with RH or SUSE. Current issues with SUSE
> > not withstanding.
>
> Probably the wisest because that is what the vendors (IBM, Dell, HP)
> support. But Debian and K?Ubuntu might be good choices too.
>
> > -Chris
>
> JIM
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