[Novalug] Welcome Back (PLEASE READ)

James Ewing Cottrell 3rd JECottrell3@Comcast.NET
Sun Nov 5 14:04:15 EST 2006


First, let me thank everyone for their hard work and the free service 
they are providing.

However, I wonder why it took two full months to restore a few mailing 
lists. This makes Linux look bad.

Now I know the servers have other things on them, but some of them are 
easily recovered, such as Linux Distros. Actually, placing mainstream 
distros here is probably a bad idea given that the bandwith is way 
slower than what you can find on distrowatch and other major download 
sites. A much better service would be an updated list of distros and 
mirrors, a catalog if you will.

The critical data, the mailing list should have been backed up nightly. 
And when I say backed up, I mean rsync'ed to another disk, possibly on 
another host. Likewise, the OS disk should be backed up by cloning, not 
mirroring, so that it is possible to simply shift a few cables, maybe 
change the master/slave jumper (or the SCSI id), maybe edit /etc/fstab, 
maybe regrub or relilo.

In other words, design the system for disaster recovery.

Clearly, it is too late to do anything about the old system, but I would 
implore the caretakers (sounds like something from Star Trek, doesn't 
it?) to build in a bit of redundancy into the current system.

I can volunteer to help if needed.

JIM

gregory pryzby wrote:

>Novalug is back on the tux.org mailman list. 
>
>WHAT HAPPENED:
>Sometime in August, gwyn.tux.org had a disk crash. The disk could not
>safely be mounted, so it was taken off line. A few weeks ago, we were
>able to get physical access to the disk and retrieve the information.
>Once that was complete, the lists were moved to calypso.tux.org. 
>
>TEMPORARY SOLUTION:
>I set up a group on googlegroups so we could communicate.
>
>NOW:
>I merged the members of the googlegroups with tux.org. 
>
>WHY:
>After asking the group, almost everyone who voiced an opinion wanted
>to be back on tux and use mailman. You wish is granted. 
>
>FUTURE:
>I will look at what needs to be done to remove the googlegroups stuff.
>I will probably just set mail to forward from googlegroups to
>calypso.tux.org for the time being though.
>
>I am also looking at how to restore the archives. 
>
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